they both suck

it kills me to see people talking about #### they dono about. i mean who does? im 16 years old and i posted a lot of usable information in the past month or two. and if i dont know i dont tell even if im no sure of somthing i dont say anything people could ruin there rig spend money where it dint need to be spent or just look like a dumbass on the trail or camp fire.

its just annoying when i hear things that are not true it seems like all the noobies in wheeling talk here and ask questions about some stuff you can figure out in about 20 min on your rig. THATS WHERE YOU LEARN so many questions are asked here that are easyer to look up on this very site. i spent 3 hours firguring out a chevy steering box when i knew people that knew how they worked. but i know a lot more than i did maybe not useful information but still cool to know. (lots of cool stuff in a power steering box you wouldnt see anywhere else)

to all you noobies out here try researching before you ask or try to answer. i have ment drunk hillbillys that are smarter than over half of you (sad but true ) but there are some smart guys out here i know that and thank you for helping me (or me helping you)

I will be building a truck this comeing year and i doubt ill ask any questions here and i know ill learn a whole lot.

skblazer you seem to have a good head on your shoulders if there is any question about the 4.0L touching the 5.7L ANY ONE with a 4.0L Jeep or Ford bring it to me and we will do the only true test build it any way you want and put it up against my STOCK 5.7L Z71 and we will hook up and see which DOG Gets the Bone!

     The 5.7L GM will all ways take the 4.0L Jeep or Ford any day any where if you don't believe it BRING IT ON!!!!!

Oh yea just one more note to add I know that the 4.0L Jeep is not bad for what it is.

However THE 4.0L FORD COULD NOT FIGHT ITS WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG ON A GOOD DAY!!!!!!

thanks for the comments but some jeep and/or chevy dislikers what have you may say the 5.7 is not in the same class as a 4.0

SO

before they can say that, the 4.3 will also beat a 4.0

and so far in mags and at the trails i have yet to see a tube buggy powered by anything other than a 4.3 chevy

i mean theres not one i have seen

4.0s are good but a 4.3 is better

sorry jeep fans you lost this race (if im wrong tell me ide like to hear about it)

Ill agree that the chevy 4.3 is a good motor. a friend of mine has one in his 1989 1500 and its a lot of fun to beat around in but im planning on driving my ford until it wont move anymore. As for the jeep 4.0 ive never driven or ridden one but inline 6s like my 4.9 seem to run as long as you take care of them. Doesnt really matter what engine your running as long as it works for you.  

jeep 4.0s do hold up and as long as you keep them in jepps they do fine  

what year 350 we talkin about here and this in the truck or the vette  

Wow, this argument has gotten way out of hand, and is quickly turning into a bash Jeep thread, when it started as a bash Chevy and Ford thread, LOL.  So, since every other internet, keyboard genius has thrown his 2 cents in, I'll add to the hysteria.  As far as what does the best, and who is better than who, it all comes down to 1 thing......FUNCTION.  What do you want the rig to do, and where do you want it to go?  If you are building a rockcrawler rig, that may be your daily driver as well, then Jeep sure brings an awful lot to the table right from the start.  They're small, lightweight, and over the last few years have lead the industry in offering some of the most top notch options that we crave right from the factory with their Rubicon line.  They have a ton of "off road driven" aftermarket support that no other manufacturer can even come close to.  Another point that I will make is that I have personally, with my own two eyes seen places that a fullsize truck could never dream of going simply due to the width of the vehicle itself.  Flatfender ally on the Rubicon trail in northern California is just one example that comes to mind.  With that being said, obviously I feel that the Jeep brand has some shortcomings when off road as well.  Wheelbase has always been my biggest gripe with Jeeps.  I have seen way too many times where a Jeep has trouble with a stairstep type obstacle or a steep incline/decline that must be traversed and the Jeeps' wheelbase made it way to difficult and/or scary for the driver.  In these instances a pickup is ideal.  I grew up in a simple yet very effective 82 Toyota long bed pickup.  Let me tell you, I never ran into a spot that a Jeep could go, and that truck couldn't.  Sure I had to back up a little more, and it wasn't geared as low so I was always running into the back of Jeeps out on the trail and telling them to speed up over the c.b., but that little Toyota was amazing!  33" tires (HUGE back then), 4.88 gears, and a TRD limited slip in the rear axle with no power steering.  Like I said, I grew up in that truck (Dad bought it brand new) and learned how to drive in that truck.  I can remember doing the shakey shakey sho-bop with the clutch in the little sluice when I was about 10 years old.  Back when all the signs were still on the tree! (I know there has to be some guys on here that remember that!)  So, like I said, function plays a key role when compairing vehicles to one another.  You put a 350 in a stock shortbed Chevy 4wd and a stock jeep with a 4.0 and take them both out onto a hardcore trail like the Rubicon, Barret Lake or Fordyce and guess what?  That little Jeep will drive circles around that pickup.  Horsepower will have nothing to do with the equation.  Now, take both those vehicles and throw them out on the sand dunes of Sand Mountain, Nevada.....it will be a whole different ballgame.  Same with mud.  Horsepower will most definately be a deciding factor there.  So, to those who want to pass judgement on things that they only know about from reading a magazine or two, or see it on TV, just sit back and pay attention and you may actually learn a thing or two.  There is no substitute for real world experience and knowledge.  Every vehicle on the road/trail has an advantage over something else.  However obvious it may or may not be.  Just because you don't know, or don't understand, doesn't give you the right to bash it.  Ignorance is not an excuse, it is a problem.  

the only thing jeeps are good at is tight trails.  other then that gm will always be on top, sorry  
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1986blazer:
the only thing jeeps are good at is tight trails.  other then that gm will always be on top, sorry

All that I can say to a statement like that is that they are bred out of ignorance.  With all my years of wheeling, I would never say that one vehicle will out perform another.  When I hear people say that, I think 2 things, inexperience and immaturity.  Sorry, that's just how I see it.  And no offense meant here, I'm not trying to harp on your driving skills, but I can guarantee that driver makes up about 75% of how well a vehicle does off road.  Width restrictions aside, I would put a driver with 20+ years of rockcrawling experience with a mildly set up jeep against you and your blazer any day of the week.  In fact, I'd take a second morgtage out on my home to do it because it would be a quick way to double my money.  Take a 60's vintage Jeep jeepster with a spring over and a V8, and you basically have a narrower version of your Blazer.  Do you think that GM beats Jeep simply because of horsepower?  Please clarify your extremely vague statement of GMs supremecy over Jeep.  Mind you, I am not a Jeep freak, I just know quality and history is hard to argue with  

3406 inna tj hmmmm.  

Um ok so ill make it easier for you to understand, sales figures, towing capability wheel base clearance, driving at high speeds what else. Off roading at high speeds I will say Jeeps are great for low speed movement such as rock crawling and tight narrow trails. another thing they are good at is getting pulled out of the mud because there light  , BTW sir i never said i do rock crawling so before you assume ask or read previous comments on a threads.  
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LOL, so you want to compare apples to oranges and say that oranges are better.  That, sir, is what's called an opinion.  You are certainly entitled to that.