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redbeast
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 10/28/06
09:19 PM

I'm trying to decide on whether to go with a K&N oiled air intake, or stay with the standard Holley filter type. I've heard some people say I could lose power with oiled type air intake systems.


Also looking for info on Carb spacers - are they worth buying, or just a scam like the 'tornado' filters ?

 

 
SnoMan
Addict | Posts: 4898 | Joined: 05/04
Posted: 10/29/06
06:20 AM

Oiled filters can raise cain with Mass Air Flow sensors if you have one. You can buy a lot of stock filters for the price of a oiled one too.

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4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 10/29/06
03:01 PM

I have a K&N in my truck and it hasn't ever (raised cain) with my MAF. I took the MAF off one day to clean it just for the heck of it, it was very clean. The one mistake that some people make when they clean their K&N is they over oil it.


You can also waste a lot of money from buying several paper air filters.

 

 
SnoMan
Addict | Posts: 4898 | Joined: 05/04
Posted: 10/29/06
07:43 PM

You have been lucky and besides why pay more for a filter that has been proven in indepentdant ISO test to filter the air les than a stock paper one offroad???. BTW, you do not have to see the oil on a MAF to ruin it and when it get visibly wet to oil it is junk and beyond cleaning.

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4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 10/29/06
08:01 PM

Theres 120,000 + miles on my truck now and everything is fine.


Why change a good thing???


The more power that I have gotten from the K&N and high flow exhaust system makes for a happier driver!!!

 

 
SnoMan
Addict | Posts: 4898 | Joined: 05/04
Posted: 10/29/06
08:48 PM

The power is a illusion or state of mind and I have put well over 200K on many vehciles with "cheap" paper air filters. I even hve a 89 4x4 burb that i bought new that has 180K on it now with cheap paper filter and it runs great and I add no oil beteen changes. It has been across the rockies more than 1 dozen times and seen temps as low as minus 50 and once made a 1000 mile trip when temps were never above minus 25 and many long trips below zero and guess what, oil based air filters suck in weather that cold as they do not filter anything. (K&N does not tell you that) and even when warm they do filter the air less to gain a very small fraction of flow. You are pretty nieve if you think that if they were that magical in power and MPG, they would not come with them from factory given the HP and MPG wars that detriot is having. Same with the CAT back dual hype. People want to believe that there is a easy fix.
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Edited 10/30/2006 5:00 am ET by snoman (snoman20)  

 
4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 10/30/06
12:04 PM

I'm not (dreaming) that I may have goten more HP. It's there all right and not a ( state of mind ) or an ( illusion )!!! I myself know that they don't filter as good as a paper element, but I like the HP increase that I get from my small engine.


I don't at all believe that you don't ever put any extra oil in your Burb between oil changes.


Every Chevy is known to leak oil, especially from the rear main seal. I've owned three Chevy's and they all leaked from the rear main seal and of course other places too!!!!


As for the cat. back duals that they have today, they are not ( TRUE DUALS ). All they are is a dual outlet muffler with two pipes. Definately a waste of money and a lose of low end torque.


The best (Horsepower Producing) dual exhaust systems consist of good headers and two seperate pipes with some high quality mufflers and a crossover pipe, H-Pipe or whatever (YOU) want to call it, and preferably mandrel bent pipes.

 

 
4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 10/31/06
05:14 AM

BTW, I wasn't looking for oil on it. I just cleaned it with some electrical contact cleaner for the heck of it and it was very clean. You always seem to jump to conclusions about everything. Know how something is (writen) before you start pointing fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Edited 10/31/2006 4:50 am ET by 4x4Ranger (4x4Range1)  

 
SnoMan
Addict | Posts: 4898 | Joined: 05/04
Posted: 10/31/06
07:34 AM

I realy do not care what you beileve on oil in burb, I have never done it and it has been well maintained. I do not abuse it and it is 100% stock except of a single FlowMaster exhaust system (quiet one) and timing set at 8BTDC instead of TDC. (I NEVER use 87 octane but I bet you do and think it is the best fuel for a modern engine too)  THe oil gets changed every 300 to 3500 miles. It is not a daily driver and it does not drip on driveway still. I have two daughters in college that we fairy there with the burb sometimes. It is 75 miles one way and sometimes a little of running around up there to to a near by town that is 15 miles from there school. It has made two round trips in last two weeks and a lot of side running around too and when I refiled it (it has a 40 gallon tank) I covered 453 miles on 25.3 gallon Do the math 17.9 MPG. It is very consistant in the 17 to 18 MPG range in this chore and if I retared the spark and used 87 it would get several MPG less and not run near as well either. And no K&N either. You are free to beleive what you want but it does not make it true all the time. BTW, if you search the web you will find some independant ISO test that show that K&N filter less without question. Your very marginal increase in airflow is at the expense of filtration plain and simple.

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4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 10/31/06
01:40 PM

HMM, Flowmaster exhaust on (your) Burb, whats wrong with this picture? As you put it in previus posts, aftermarket performance mufflers/ exhaust systems do nothing for performance or they would have come that way from the factory. What's wrong with the stock setup, not enough POWER?


I don't use 87 octane in my truck. If you would go back and READ previus posts, you would see that.


I don't give two hoots where you drive and how far you travel.


Again, if you would READ previus posts, I do know that the K&N filters less!


 





Edited 10/31/2006 12:42 pm ET by 4x4Ranger (4x4Range1)  

 
Geeksr
User | Posts: 82 | Joined: 04/06
Posted: 11/12/06
04:59 PM

There he goes again, 4x4Ranger don't you know by now that Snoman knows more then you do about your own truck, and he knows more then EVERY supplier and manufacturer in the country about what produces horsepower.


It's simple, it won't make more power unless Snoman sez so.

 

 
XJames
New User | Posts: 28 | Joined: 11/06
Posted: 11/17/06
05:46 PM

   Well it might not make much of a difference to anyone but I have K&N and Tornadoes on all 3 of my vehicles. The best results being found on EFI vehicles. My wife's KIA went from 32 MPG to 36 and my Jeep Cherokee went from 14 to 17. Now on my carbureted Bronco I could not see any difference at all but I put em on the day I got it so I didn't get the figures before hand. However I am managing 14mpg on the highway with 33's and 4:10 gears. Like that really matters considering it cost $80/wk to fill it up.  


 
4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 11/19/06
05:36 AM

Buying a Chevy Luv was just a joke dude!!!!


I don't buy disposable paper filters, I've got a K&N. You need to READ the posts better!!


Also if you like a good comedy, you should rent the movie Dumb & Dumber.

 

 
XJames
New User | Posts: 28 | Joined: 11/06
Posted: 11/19/06
10:29 AM

You know I actually didn't read that post I was to busy LMAO to read it. As far as dumb and dumber go I can't stand Jim Carrey, the fact that someone can make that much money just being a complete *** really burns my ass, almost as much as guys making millions playing games, like football, especially those that don't give it their all like they did in college. I think there was a little misunderstanding, my reply wasn't meant for you, it was meant to be just a general post to help redbeast with the original question. The dumb & dumber joke just struck a nerve. I apologize for the confusion.



Edited 11/19/2006 9:38 am by XJames (XJames2)  

 
4x4Ranger
User | Posts: 130 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 11/20/06
12:00 AM

I really didn't think it was meant for me either, I just wanted to verify that it wasn't.


Good luck with trying to convince a certain person on this website that a K&N is better in certain ways than a paper filter!!!


Its like trying to stick a square peg into a round hole.


I can't stand Jim Carrey anymore either, but I do like some of his older movies.


Sometimes all of us just type the wrong thing in sometimes or we get a little edgy on occasion. No big deal.

 

 
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