hey yall

i jus figured id start a post on the new dodge power wagon

id jus like to know everyones thots on this truck and what the potential is for it

Glad to see some one starting on this topic.Personaly I really like this rig.An accual trail rig from the factory,winch included with e-lockers.Finally a true off-road package.Not just decals,skids and tow hooks.I also think with the factory 4:10 and 33's should go ok.I can't quite afford a 30k truck so for now I'll keep wrenching and wheeling my ole 150.But I do see 2 draw backs right off,#1 no locking hubs,all serious 4x4's should have them.#2 all the new Rams I'v seen are made in mexico,is a no-no.I'v heard many bad things from owners of the mexican ram.Hope Ford steps up to the plate on this.At least they still got lockouts.  

power wagon has 4.56 not 4.10 gears

Correct on 4.56's and from what I have read they are marginal overall with 33's in that truck with 5.7's power curve. 4.10 with 33 would suck unless you have a very low performance standard.  

All right I was wrong.But is that all,no other comments of the new PW? I thought the first responce would be about the hubs or about the hemi.Well from real reports from people I'v met,the hemi is no mountain mover. Should have used a torqued up viper 505 cube V-10, and of coures locking hubs.  

I heard about the Power Wagon earlier this year and have been anxious to check it out, today I called my local Dodge Dealer to see when it would be available only to discover it is a concept truck only and is not for sale. Can anyone confirm this.  

I saw one for sale at a dealer a few months ago. They are for real but a bit of a disapointment overall performance wise. It cries for a V10  

Think I heard that mid year they will have a V10  

I am not a big Hemi fan. I think the the V10 would be a better choice. I would like the cummings as an option as well.

As far as manual hubs go, YES. I say screw the poor babies who can't get out to lock a hub, at least make it an option. 

A 1400lb Cummins in a off road truck? Poor Choice.  

the truck must be pushing nearly 7000lb already, the weight difference from the cummings compared to the v10 is tear in the ocean when added to the gross weight of the truck.

I guess its a poor choice because its not your choice? I am not saying make it the the only motor for that truck, make it an option.

If you are buying it strictly as an off-road rig, you had better re-count your pennies, because you could make a hell of alot better off road-rig for the sticker price of the power wagon.

Its a daily driver with off road prowess, you have to make some concessions somewhere, and mine would be the weight of the diesel in the front.   

I do not know why you consider about 600lbs more that a V10 (about 800 more than a V8) a "tear in the ocean" and it is all in the wrong place too for off roading. Its kinda like taking a truck with a 360 or a hemi in it and then hanging another 600 to 700 pounds on front end before you take it off road. Poor logic.  

I used to off road with a Deisel rig. Lots of torque, but too many problems! Weight wasn't an issue. The biggest problem was not many other "wheelers" run deisel. If you get in a jam, not many options usually end up towing the rig home. Also deisel fuel not readily available. If you punch your tank and get a leak you can repair, not likely to find someone to give you a gallon or two to get by. Now you are adding more weight with spare tank of fuel!    

I guess you missed the rest of the post about having to make some concessions. (which isn't surprising)

I am well aware of the fact that diesel isnt the best for off-roading, well if you havent noticed NEITHER IS A 7000LB QUAD CAB TRUCK....

You know what snoman? You are right. Anyone who wheel's a diesel out there should hide in shame and immediately swap to gas motor, the almighty snoman has spoken!

Just because you have a severe distain for diesel doesn't mean it wouldn't suit someone else.

Open you mind before your mouth.

Next time I decide to go off road then I should put my plow on my truck first huh? Then is would weigh as much as a oil burner up front and do better huh, yeah right.  Weight is a enemy for serious offroad, not a freind. I do not care how impressive the oil burner torque looks as it is usually best around 2000 rpm and will not rev over 3000 with any ernest and add in the extra weight and it is a boat anchor in the soft stuff. Engines lighter in weight and with wide torque and RPM ranges rule in serious off road challanges.