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Fuel Injection and Electronic Ignitions

 
ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/12/09
04:56 PM

I have a ford with a 390 big block FE.  I was wondering what motors and what years i can take a fuel injection system and electronic ignition system off of and put it onto my 71 Ford 390.  If anyone knows of any or has any experience with this it would help alot.  
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NaughtyDodge04 NaughtyDodge04
Guru | Posts: 825 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 01/12/09
05:49 PM

this is just imagination, but what if ya got the good mass air cpu and efi off of a 5.0. you know?
I mean would it be hard to put the plug wires in the correct position if there were a difference?
just put No. one plug wire where the No.1 wire goes on the 390,longer plug wires and such, I figure as long as you have the motor firing correctly...
then you could figure airflow vs mm size, they use a 75mm throttle body on the full boogie motors, so...
there is all kinds of aftermarket support, headers n such can be modded for sensors.
ya i know different distributor drives, but, how bout swapping cam drive gears?
like i said just imagination
what about heavy duty ford u haul farm truck type vehicles? they had funky motors until recently?
wish i could help  

 
ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/12/09
07:48 PM

Haha.  Sounds like a fun plan, but a lot of work.  How new of a 5.0 are you talking bout?  And, have you done work like this before.  Also, what are you referring to when you say "boogie motors".  I am not looking to spend a lot on anything aftermarket, that why I looking for suggestions so I can rob from a junkyard or something.  Cause it is not a big deal right now, my stuff works, just lookin for maybe lil power boost from injection and lil more reliable system than points for the long run.  But I like the idea your getting at if I had a little more info and stuff than it might happen.  Lookin forward to some more input too.  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/13/09
05:46 PM

Would it be possible to take the stuff i need off of a fuel injected and electronic ignitioned 390 of a later model?  Im guessin since it is same engine and stuff right? what years and models would have this kind of stuff?  
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FourWheeler Web Editor FourWheeler Web Editor
Administrator | Posts: 4529 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 01/13/09
05:53 PM

In my mind that should work no problem, pulling it off another 390, not sure what years/models though. Maybe try Wikipedia?  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/13/09
05:56 PM

Ya.  What would I look for?  Like label in search?  Or maybe someone on here knows something haha.  Just a waiting game on here.  I'll check that out and see if I can find anything unless I get some solid answers on here during my search.  
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FourWheeler Web Editor FourWheeler Web Editor
Administrator | Posts: 4529 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 01/13/09
06:00 PM

Search for Ford 390... might come up with history and uses... I know other engines *** good luck!  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/13/09
06:32 PM

Ya! Thanks, I'll see what I can find and keep you posted.  In the mean time, any body else have any input or suggestions?  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/13/09
09:12 PM

Well Wikipedia turned up with nothing.  So now I just relying on anyone out there that knows what years and models of Ford p/u came with a fuel injected 390 with electronic ignition.  So any help would be fantastic. Thanks.  
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NaughtyDodge04 NaughtyDodge04
Guru | Posts: 825 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 01/14/09
07:59 AM

Hiya. sorry i didnt get back to ya sooner, the full boogie motor comment was pointing to the fact that these efi motors turn high RPM'S and have the air flow capacity to handle a more sedate but larger engine. I think you want to use a Mass Airflow system in the adaptation, supposed to be easyer to adapt and modify. I think after 93 or so had the system, but i'll check. all the sensors and such could be adapted,and many companys will burn a custom chip for the efi cpu. look at jegs.com-summit racing. or even four wheel parts wholesalors.com for ideas.
doing it on the cheap is entirely possible if ya got the will and some time!
the hard part i think will be routing the plug wires right, cut a aluminum adapter to mount the mass flow meter,mount the cpu high and dry, keep the alternator pushing the right voltage so's the cpu dont act up
theres aftermarket support out the wazoo out there for the pony motor efi.  

 
ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/14/09
04:11 PM

Just for clarification,  are you still talking about taking this stuff off of a 5.0?  And how about getting this stuff off of a 390 (6.4)?  Wouldn't that be easier and match up almost exact?  I'm liking your idea though, just will need more clarification and a finalized plan once I start figuring stuff out.  So thanks for the help so far, and hopefully we'll get something worked out in the near future.  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/14/09
06:06 PM

I was doing some research and the 427 and 428 where built off of the 390.  So would I be able to get EFI and electronic ignition stuff off either of these engines and have it work?  Just a thought since they are basically same engines besides bore and stroke.  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/15/09
09:14 PM

I have been doing some research online, not a lot out there though.   I'm still kind of stuck as to what to do and get this stuff off of.  Hope there is someone out there that can help.  
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ford_munky_man ford_munky_man
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 12/08
Posted: 01/15/09
10:30 PM

Ok, another little update.  352-428's I think have the same intake manifold and mount the same one from one on any of the said engines.  If not then someone correct me and point me in the right direction.  Still lookin for suggestions of donor trucks.  I mean someone out there has got to know something.  
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OldFordTruckGuy OldFordTruckGuy
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 02/09
Posted: 02/03/09
07:45 PM

Hey guys,  sorry for the bad news,  but EFI and the ole FE engine are from two different generations,  The Ford Big Block FE went out of production in 1976,  long before the advent of electronic fuel injection.  The FE is a beast unto itself, the parts don't interchange with the other Ford family engines Windsors, Clevelands and Midlands.  The only Fuel Injection I've seen on an FE was one of those new RetroTec systems.  Expensive and I don't know about reliability or tunability, the good thing about them is they bolt on your existing intake just like a carb.  There are some after market distributors that are far better than stock points distributors,  Davis Unified Ignition makes a nice one that fits the FE and uses the GM HEI upper end.   Good luck  

 
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