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Posted: 03/22/08 05:18 AM
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OK been many years since I have bought any "street" type of tires.
2004 jeep grand cherokee, its a daily driver only, wont see dirt so no need for any AT's really.
tire size is 235/75/17 has the factory goodyears wiht 30,000 on them and they are about bald. just bought the jeep, so cant really say if I liked the goodyears, other than I think the wore kinda quick. (bought the jeep off a 73 year old lady dont think she abused them but only 30,000?)
so what are some good handling tires, I live in a twisty canyon area. no snow or ice, but rain dose come.So I want a tire that dose good in rain, and has long life,and handles pretty good.road noise Id like to keep down.but I can stand some.
any feed back?
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SnoMan
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Posted: 03/22/08 07:19 AM
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Do you rotate tires every 5K or so? (you really should on a 4x4 for max life) Your tire life is pretty low and you should get 50 to 60 K out of them. I have 40K on my factory 235/R16 on my K3500 and they have about 50 to 60% tread still. As far as tread type, if you want best handling and MPG you want a street type tire for your needs and a aggressive tire will have less street traction and tread life as well as consume more fuel too.
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Posted: 03/22/08 12:23 PM
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Are those tires worn even across the tread or more so towards the outer edges. I see so many people driving with under inflated tires; it is very likely that the previous owner didn't check them or have them checked.
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Posted: 04/03/08 10:08 PM
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Im pretty sure the air pressure was kept up.Has TPMS and if it get under it beeps at you. and is rather anoying. so I would assume.
tires have a very very slight feather of the edges to them. like most fwd car get on the front tires.sidewalls are NOT all burnt up ethier like they had been ran low and rolled over all the time. otherwise tires are worn nice, just seem fast on wear.
I get more miles out of my BFG AT's on all my other trucks.
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Snow, from the records I got, tires have been roatated and balanced 3 times.
comparing heavy duty,high load rate tires wear to a super light weight truck tire.dam near a car tire, is like saying watermelons and grapefruits kinda taste the same lol...But I do agree I would think these tires should have lasted longer. And I dont belive the lady drove hard to wear the tires.....
I know i need some "street" tires for what this jeep is being used for. thing is I havent bought a "street" tire in years. so what Im looking for is real world advice on what tires in the "Street" section are worth a crap.
snow,Ice and mud are not a concern
wet roads, must do pretty good.
dry roads,long lasting, good gen. handling I live in a rual area with twisty roads,long lasting, and rather quiet.....
anyone got any sugestions keeping tires say 120 and under each?
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SnoMan
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Posted: 04/04/08 07:10 AM
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I put a set of Michelin's on my 89 4x4 burb about 8 years ago (it is not a daily driver and not used as much as in years past too and it has about 185K miles on it now) They are RV type (load range C) street tires with a smooth tread. They are good on wet roads and roll nicely (I get excellent MPG for vehicle type, consistently 17 to 18 on road) and it coasts really well and track nicely on highway. Right now they have about 35K on them and they have about 65 to 70% tread on them still and are wearing nicely. I do run them at close to max pressure (44 front and 49 rear) on them as it is a heavy vehicle. I would buy them again. I can look at what model/type tire they are if you want me too. I used to run BFG's on it but they would start to come apart on it after about 30 to 35K and after 3 replacement sets of them I went to Mic's and had no more problems and MPG jumped up about 2 MPG or more on road and it rolls much nicer than with BFG's. At today's fuel prices, I am past the "look" and more interested in efficiency as a few MPG can add up to a lot of coin saved over life of tire.
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Posted: 04/04/08 07:47 AM
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i concurre w/ SnoManMichellins are great in the wet and suprising in the sand,mine were load range e's but thats overkill for your app,little expensive,but i think well worth the investment,my ethos is spend the money for a good product the first time,luck to ya!
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keithpapa
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Posted: 04/04/08 07:56 AM
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MY DAD HAS MICHELINS ON HIS 04 K2500HD 6.6DMAX FOR WINTER DRIVING AND ROTATES THEM TO SUMMER TIRES.THE WINTER MICHELINS HAVE BEEN ON THERE FOR 5 WINTERS AND CAN LAST ANOTHER 2.THE MICHELINS ARE EXPENSIVE BUT WELL WORTH THE WIEGHT IN GOLD.
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SnoMan
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Posted: 04/04/08 08:08 AM
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Some or all of that expense though is recovered from long tire life and better MPG. In long run they could actually be cheaper...
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Posted: 04/04/08 09:14 AM
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I got 68,000 miles plus out of the E's on my 6100 lb q-cab 2500 4by.and still had enough tread to hide lincolns neck.rotation-proper inflation-and inspection.thats the key for the max tire life.Quality has a high standing on that list,but any thing will last if used within design limits. my backround in the trucking industry,working for poor and rich companys,you learn to maximize the life of a tire that cost up to $500 for a drive tire.the steers ,which are specialized,can cost more ,,,,depending where and when your at.(dogpatch Alabama truck stop 2.26 am)etc.i think on a heavier vehicle,a tighter sidwall ,to a point,eg,a higher load range B to C will make for a more stable tire that doesnt move around as much,runs cooler and has a higher durometer rating will last much longer than what a factory compromise spec is,,never go lower. NEVER.than what the minimum spec calls for.One more thing a higher load range tire is stiffer ,so expect a definit change in ride and drivability,you may feel like it handles more sporty cause of the stiffer sidewalls,well youve been round long enough to know that youve got a high center of gravity,,,and the results of the abuse of the laws of phisics.the smoother the tread, the harder the rubber, the higher the milage potential, luck to ya wheeler! hope my humble observation has cast some insight,happy wheelin!
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SnoMan
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Posted: 04/05/08 02:50 PM
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Nice comment NaughtyDodge04
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