allrigth first off,  i dont have much expirence with diesel trucks,  only non-turbo tractors.

in a few years i am going to get a dodge 3500 dually with the 6.7 liter cummins and a 6 speed manual trans,  for towing, and farm work.

do the newer 2007, and so on,  dodge 6.7liter cummins have dpf systems in them?  and if so how hard would it be to remove it?  is it like a glass pack, or a filter,  or does it have something to do with the electronics system?  i have heard that removing the dpf increases power and reduces back-pressure.

also,  i was thinking about a performance chip,  like something from bully-dog.  would installing one of these mess with the electronics?

i say this because a buddy of mine put a chip on his dakota (gas 6 cylinder)  and it fried the o2 sensor and messed up the computer.

any imput would be appreciated,  

So,, ya want a little extra power huh? 1.for turbo whine,clogthe filter wilth as much dirt as you can,the tubo will scream in agony,and yes it will be loud cause it will try to do its job any way it can,..untill it blows. for the black smoke just put big enough tire on it to have it really lug in any gear,the ice age,well dont know bout that one,mebbie fill the 8 foot trash bag lined jakoozie in the back of your wagon *** ice and lug the engine with the clogged filter coz of thee 8 thousand lbs of ice ibn tha back.maybee. if i get a diesle i want it to whistle like my 16 liter cummins!  

so you want me to kill it, to make the turbo whine huh?

dosent seem like a good idea...  

still,  its a shame that dodge, chevy and ford does such a good job making trucks,  them they kill the power with cat converters,  exaust filters,  computers and a induction system that starves the engine of fuel,  all in the name of emissions controll.

you want to help the enviorment,  get that punk that lives down the road from me to replace the rings in his cavilier.  thing smokes like crazy,  and while your at it,  take away his annoying sound system.  he already vibrated the rear bumper off.

and plant more corn, tobacco and grow more hay.

and eat the cows (like ron white said)  

oh yeah,  on dodge's website,  they say something about the disel engine "regenerating"  whats that mean?  

it is cleaning the dpf filter or something?  

LOL..  

just semi kidding bout the dirt,it is a fact on class 8s that the more the filter clogs the louder the whistle,no, dont lug it,i dont advocate tearing equipment up ,just because you can,if i could afford it i would get a nother Q-CAB 4BY.Ebay motors is cooooll!and yea the pea shooter stereo blastin moron down the block,, has a bro living cross the street.funny thing is tho,any time you blast the nasty,u are advertizing to the theiving low life who will steal the offending jam,,if, there is any justice.Luck on the hot mods!  

so i can remove the dpf filter,  put on new exaust,  and put on the performance chips, huh?

seems to me that a dpf is just a solution for a nonexistant problem.  you dont see that manny turbo diesel trucks hauling a load of hay,  or pulling a horse trailer through large cities...

and its a great thing to clog up and kill your engine.  

neo-ice:
still,  its a shame that dodge, chevy and ford does such a good job making trucks,  them they kill the power with cat converters,  exaust filters,  computers and a induction system that starves the engine of fuel,  all in the name of emissions controll.

you want to help the enviorment,  get that punk that lives down the road from me to replace the rings in his cavilier.  thing smokes like crazy,  and while your at it,  take away his annoying sound system.  he already vibrated the rear bumper off.

and plant more corn, tobacco and grow more hay.

and eat the cows (like ron white said)

The reality is that diesels are quite dirty before you mod them and have been that way for years. They make about as much NOx as 10 gas 4x4's. EPA finally admitted that they are a bigger problem than cars and order sulpher out of fuel and them cleaned up. Even new cleaner ones are far dirtier than a gas motor. They have been trying to hide their true emissions for years with turbos that dilute the exhaust with excessive air to keep the PPM lower but in the true GPM (Grams Per Mile) they are real bad still. Chipping them only makes it worse and can shorten engine life. If gas engines had same lack rules that diesel enjoyed for years they would be different animals today. I am not a tree hugger but such mods to make a diesel dirtier is not wise in todays society. You can have fun but you can keep it fairly clean too. You can argue that one truck does not make a difference but it does if you are behind it in traffic and there will always be more than one of them too until the mentality changes.  

wonder if a turbo of a N14 would work on a 5.9 or 6.7. a high voulume of air at low pressure,,lower temps? as much air at lower boost,and HUUUGE Boooost, at speed,figure a 60 lbs of boost the same any way ya look at it,back pressure,too much,electronic waste gate.mmm,hog out the head,put multiples of injectors,wonder if it would last a minute or 2.I wonder what the ultimate boost level is b4 terminal failure on a 5.9-6.7 a powerstroke,6.9-7.3 and 6.4, and the duramax?  

also ive heard that the new 6 speed manual dodge has standard on the ram trucks,  is more like a simi-truck transmission than a normal car or truck.

good news is its first gear id very low,  about 6.5:1 i think,  rounds like a bully-dog gear to me.  that would come in handy gettin off the line with a trailor and 6 tons of hay bales.

i've heard people say it has a long throw and it has to be shifted slower than a standard 5 speed.

ive never used this transmission,  anyone have expirence with it?  

HEY NEO ICE,ITS not how fast you can shift in this game its how smooth you can be,and when,yea sometimes theres times you gotta,but the shock load to the drive train is immense under load,and its no fun dropping the drive shaft,,,in traffic. Any traffic.for durability the tranny will be agreeable a lot longer if you let those coarse gears time to mesh.it may look cool to some people to have the truck hop and strain to get a big load moving,the sound of the turbo screaming and the accelleration,its all good,but its sorta dumb to watch the driver trying to powershift a long throw tranny,they all get the angry, ime to busy and you better get out of my way coz ime trying to look tough as i yank on the stick ..look.be smooth and science out your truck/driving interface and you,ll get more performance longer, sounds like a lot of work during the hay season,
do you have one of those long funky looki rould bale trailers?  

nother though Neo ice is that i heard tha the prodrag turbo cars spool up the snail w co2 on the oulet side to build boost for launch.dont know how much it would take to spool the 6.7,but imagine the power youll have on an emergency full throtlle onramp assault,or the dreaded sideroad to busy street entry.i heard of a 4 banger guy using N20 to spool the inlet side,dont know bout dumping that much fuel into the motor and then droppin the clutch,who knows.maybe a propane ,h2o/methanol injection,n20 tickle will bring the power? ever wonder what 1850 lbs of torque feels like with 12k behind it.my 16 ltr Cummins pulled like nothin else,magine what a 1k 6.7 pull would feel like,mmmm  

i have no problem shifting a long throw.

hell,  i had to learn how to double clutch this old (1940's era)  tractor we had a few years back.

anyway i was just wondering...

also this guy talks about spooling up the turbo with co2.  ive never heard of that but it would work.  

also,  propane can be used in a diesel as a power booster,  simmilar to NOS in a gasoline engine.

running a few gallons of kerosene with diesel helps to get those old tractors to start,  and it gives them a bit more power.  dont know about these new diesel trucks though...

back to the DPF problem,  can it be removed,  or replaced with a less restricitive one?

it just doent seem to me that a diesel exaust filter will get clogged too quickly.

and even then,  all that black smoke is just unburned fuel,  instead of worring about the filtering system,  why not just run the engine a little leaner?  

we do the same thing with pulling tractors,  and they actually seem to run better when their not spouting black smoke.